Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 31

Thread: Air to Surface Weapon Delivery Methods

  1. #21
    Founders Eddie's Avatar
    Quatar
       Quatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,251

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,392
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,661
    Thanked in
    1,621 Posts
    Little things like this are why I want to remake the videos after edge/NTTR is out.

  2. #22
    Member JayPee's Avatar
    Netherlands
       Netherlands
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    490
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    144
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    78
    Thanked in
    60 Posts
    During bomb deliveries and gun runs when you "aggressively correct any 3/9 errors", do you generally correct using the rudder and thereby accepting a slightly uncoordinated flight for the rest of the run, or do you always correct by banking until you have established the desired aim?

  3. #23
    Founders Eddie's Avatar
    Quatar
       Quatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,251

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,392
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,661
    Thanked in
    1,621 Posts
    Bank and pull, stay off the rudders.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Eddie For This Useful Post:

    JayPee (21Dec14)

  5. #24
    Member JayPee's Avatar
    Netherlands
       Netherlands
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    490
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    144
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    78
    Thanked in
    60 Posts
    Good to know. Means I have to re-teach myself a bit because I did use the rudders but it will probably be easier after some training. Currently it feels like I'm constantly fighting forces which want to prevent me from hitting my target.
    Last edited by JayPee; 21Dec14 at 16:50.

  6. #25
    Senior Member Ski's Avatar
    United States
       United States
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    722

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,414
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    232
    Thanked in
    173 Posts
    I find it helpful if I'm constantly trimmimg my aircraft while on the attack run. Helps to keep the retucle steady on the target along with PAC 1.

  7. #26
    Member JayPee's Avatar
    Netherlands
       Netherlands
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    490
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    144
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    78
    Thanked in
    60 Posts
    From what I've understood from Noodle in one of his posts the only trimming you could/should do is a few clicks nose down prior to roll-in. Apart from that you don't trim during the run itself as at that time you have other things to worry about.

  8. #27

    TWOT


    476th vFG Command Staff
    Oliver's Avatar
    Netherlands
       Netherlands
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    3,585

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    741
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,806
    Thanked in
    950 Posts
    Quick question(s), up to what height is a level delivery considered a VLD? A VLD allows for a maximum of 5 degrees nose dipping to visually acquire a target, is this straight and level flying + 5 degree dipping technique also allowed when doing a level LAT? Or would I then have to something like a 10/0 LAT?


    A mission’s execution often reflects the quality, discipline, and tone set in the briefing. - Chris “Kimos” Haave

  9. #28
    GOMER 2 Noodle's Avatar
    United States
       United States
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    1,570

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    615
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,962
    Thanked in
    685 Posts
    There is no maximum altitude for a VLD release; the only real reason you'd be doing one is because climbing above fuze arming altitude or safe escape altitude will get you insta-killed. The purpose of a VLD is to be as low as allowable.

    Yes, a pull to level is perfectly valid for LAT/MAT deliveries.

    The differentiator between a VLD and a LAT is that VLD=CCIP while LAT=CCRP. That and LAT assumes you're not going die if you're higher than 200 feet AGL.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Noodle For This Useful Post:

    Oliver (08Nov16)

  11. #29

    TWOT


    476th vFG Command Staff
    Oliver's Avatar
    Netherlands
       Netherlands
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    3,585

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    741
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,806
    Thanked in
    950 Posts
    Since we don't have any official approved profiles for gun and rocket attacks in the group I'm trying to summarize the guidelines and restrictions in the opening post and the 3-3.A10.

    The LRS doesn't state a minimum recovery altitude and burst QTY, I'm assuming it's 75ft AGL and 100rds, same as the other events?

    The HATR has the same dive angle restrictions as the LATR, is this correct? Feels counter intuitive. I'm coming from a much higher altitude and have a much higher minimum recovery altitude. If my dive angle would be the limited to 20 degrees I'm looking at a much larger slant range than with LATR.

    The HARR only has one restriction: 10 000ft AGL minimum recovery altitude. Are there no other restrictions or are the restrictions the same as for the LATR/HATR?
    Last edited by Oliver; 06Feb18 at 21:15.


    A mission’s execution often reflects the quality, discipline, and tone set in the briefing. - Chris “Kimos” Haave

  12. #30
    Founders Eddie's Avatar
    Quatar
       Quatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,251

    Awards Showcase

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,392
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,661
    Thanked in
    1,621 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
    The LRS doesn't state a minimum recovery altitude and burst QTY, I'm assuming it's 75ft AGL and 100rds, same as the other events?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
    The HATR has the same dive angle restrictions as the LATR, is this correct? Feels counter intuitive. I'm coming from a much higher altitude and have a much higher minimum recovery altitude. If my dive angle would be the limited to 20 degrees I'm looking at a much larger slant range than with LATR.
    Yes. And yes, you have a greater slant range. That's what HATR gives you, more stand-off from the target.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
    The HARR only has one restriction: 10 000ft AGL minimum recovery altitude. Are there no other restrictions or are the restrictions the same as for the LATR/HATR?
    As always, the only restrictions are those stated.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Eddie For This Useful Post:

    Oliver (10Feb18)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Like our website?

You can help us by donating to cover our costs.

Many sincere thanks!


Search

Follow us

Twitter Twitter youtube