Well, I finally found a video and of course it's exactly as in the OI's. Looks like number 2 holds it level down the runway until 200+ knots, pulls straight up and and then banks right over for the crosswind into downwind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJn_GUhgHwE
Again, as I suggested in the beginning here: high performing aircraft. Don't compare to civilian procedures.
Dojo (03Nov14)
I haven't looked at the source material, but it sounds like you guys are describing what's called a "closed pull", which is a maneuver that follows a Low Approach and is used to aggressively reposition the aircraft to the "inside" downwind - the same perch as an overhead break.
This is of course different than a "go around" or "missed approach", which is a benign maneuver because it's meant to be flown in IMC.
Howie (03Nov14)
I guess that did come out kind of tersely, apologies for that. What I really meant was: You started the thread with the goal of making sure we were learning and following proper procedures. Totally agree, in fact, I don't know anyone within the 476th who doesn't.
The flaw, is a mistake I've also made many times: Evaluating military aircraft through the lens of civilian procedures and knowledge. They're really not handled the same.
Last edited by Dojo; 03Nov14 at 22:59.
Yeah, I've been caught out by the civilian/military thing many times before as well.
I guess with civilian training you're deliberately discourage from aggressive manoeuvring, especially when low and slow. This is probably just so your average Joe doesn't kill himself trying to do something silly and so he knows how to fly a generic aircraft well within its safety limits.
With the military it seems if they have the ability to do something, they just train to do it right to the limit rather than comfortably within it.
Come on Howie your not having enough fun then! I rolled every GA plane i flew...1G is 1G If your upside down or not
Yassy (04Nov14)